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Subs For Everyone?

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I love the idea of BasicBob's large amphibious sub but think they could be used by the FSA Marine Corps in the Pacific Theatre.

The Prussians should have the wolf-pack MAR'd subs for their sub fleet.

If everyone else gets subs the Brits could have Ruckdog's torpedo boats - fast, manoeuvrable, cheap, hard to hit, loaded with just torpedoes but with 1HP

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I love the idea of BasicBob's large amphibious sub but think they could be used by the FSA Marine Corps in the Pacific Theatre.

The Prussians should have the wolf-pack MAR'd subs for their sub fleet.

If everyone else gets subs the Brits could have Ruckdog's torpedo boats - fast, manoeuvrable, cheap, hard to hit, loaded with just torpedoes but with 1HP

I would be all over it if they did. I expect DW is a game that can just continue to expand to eventually allow fully Darwinist armies, fully submersible forces etc... Why not?

I think the Prussians should get a submersible - it fits with the fluff, and it allows them to regain a little more of a fearsome reputation - much like the historical impact of the wolf packs in WWII.

However, things need to remain balanced throughout - for the Brits the sub is the only unique unit they have - and so any Prussian sub would need to involve a balance for KoB in keeping with their military strengths and predilections.

I like the speed boat idea - but this would not necessarily have to be an exclusive KoB thing - I see them as a water version of TF essentially - albeit a little larger - and they could thus fulfill a number of roles.

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I love the idea of BasicBob's large amphibious sub but think they could be used by the FSA Marine Corps in the Pacific Theatre.

The Prussians should have the wolf-pack MAR'd subs for their sub fleet.

If everyone else gets subs the Brits could have Ruckdog's torpedo boats - fast, manoeuvrable, cheap, hard to hit, loaded with just torpedoes but with 1HP

NOOOO!!!

No more torpedoe armed craft please, we have more than enough of those already thankyou very much!

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NOOOO!!!

No more torpedoe armed craft please, we have more than enough of those already thankyou very much!

Damn the Torpedoes - full speed ahead!

((apologies for the bad language but the quote loses impact without it)

Though I do somewhat share the sentiment that torpedoes are clearly very favoured by the Kob sea forces; but I can't think of much else we can fit to smaller boats that would pack a punch. Cannon on such small ships would, in my view, be only any good as light arms and ack-ack and we already have a support ship for that role in the Bastion.

Prussia could certainly go with ack-ack - assault support speedboats. Ships that dart in maybe not to take and hold a battleship, but whittle away at its compliment of troops until the bigger slower ships can get in to finish the work (this also supports the idea of allowing speedboat hub ships - like carriers for wing support - since death rates for them would be high).

Britain also does not use rockets nor have any highly specialist tech like the heat-lance - nor could I see them using suicide speedboats (CoA could). Torpedoes would be the flavour for the unit I feel - even though its a heavily repeated part of KoB forces.

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I do like the Idea of the British getting some sort of massive mobile fortress or a bulldog robot. I also thought that, in keeping with the bird theme for the Hawk and eagle, you could have a small flying robot bird with Rb1 fore guns and the pack hunter for a assaults (forgot the name). That was before the freedom came out though.

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Britain also does not use rockets nor have any highly specialist tech like the heat-lance - nor could I see them using suicide speedboats (CoA could). Torpedoes would be the flavour for the unit I feel - even though its a heavily repeated part of KoB forces.

I just don't want to see more redundant options, I think this is a weakness of the 4 first factions, They're so focused on their flavour that many units are pointless because there are others that fill the role better while at the same time leaving big gaps in the tactical options.

Britain has many many great options for torps, from Destroyers and Frigates, through cruisers, gunships and even out special Vanguards right up through the Battleship, fleet carrier and to a lesser extent the dread. And thats just our naval vessels, how could tiny torp boats possibly fill a role not covered by what's already there. They would either be clearly worse or about the same as something else and therefore not worth taking or clearly better (or about the same) making something else redundant . Britain however still has a weakness to air so if we get any new boats they should probably be anti air (preferably at range to make them distinct from the Merlins).

What all the first 4 factions need is some varied units fulfilling different roles from their speciality. Not just more and more options for achieving the same result.

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Personally I'd rather see a stronger long range air to air unit as opposed to another ship. That way it not only gives us an option during sea and land battles, but also boost our pure air to air game (where at the moment we've mostly lots of bombers of various kinds and one small fighter - the merlin is good but could do with a heavier air to air armed long range eagle scale ship for support)

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i think for the EOTBS id like to see a submersible flyer !!! or skimmer, ie no ability to go obscured but maybe become submersed in the ocean if needs must :) and of course gas attack medium sized ... imagine it diving into the water like a serpent !!

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NOOOO!!!

No more torpedoe armed craft please, we have more than enough of those already thankyou very much!

YEEEESSSS!

By the way subs in this game don't have to be armed with a torpedo. One word...Boomer! A sub armed with missles/rockets is a very real possibility for DW. I fully expect a sub in this game not to have torps...oh wait can you say IKA !!!!!!

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I love the idea of BasicBob's large amphibious sub but think they could be used by the FSA Marine Corps in the Pacific Theatre.

The Prussians should have the wolf-pack MAR'd subs for their sub fleet.

If everyone else gets subs the Brits could have Ruckdog's torpedo boats - fast, manoeuvrable, cheap, hard to hit, loaded with just torpedoes but with 1HP

By all means The Corps should have its large amphibious assault sub with "Gator" amphib assault tanks ( medium class size) for support. Every beach belongs to the Federated States Marine Corps ( FSMC) when we want it to! HOO-RAH!

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