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The HEC Stingray and Atlas have the independent move,  but the Black Wolf Reaper, Aussie Crocodile and Italian Torp Boat don't. Given they are all the same sort of model (tiny token) shouldn't they all have Independent Move, or should none of them have it?

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5 hours ago, draco84oz said:

The HEC Stingray and Atlas have the independent move,  but the Black Wolf Reaper, Aussie Crocodile and Italian Torp Boat don't. Given they are all the same sort of model (tiny token) shouldn't they all have Independent Move, or should none of them have it?

haha, we actually did a BW vs LoIS game yesterday with reapers and uccisores, it was pretty funny to have to account for drift and medium turning templates on those tokens.

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Hi guys, thanks for these spots. Amended ORBATS for a few nations have been prepared and will be posted up in the next day or 2. When they go up I will post here saying what has been changed.

Josh

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Hi all, to following ORBATS have been updated:

Black Wolf: Reapers are now Diving and have Independent Move

League of Italian States: Uccisore MTBs have Independent Move

Royal Australians: Crocodiles have Independent Move

Free Australians: Crocodiles have Independent move and also Special Forces (1) (to bring them in line with the Royal Australians). The Bounty has had a slight points increase

Honourable Eclipse Company: SAS MARs are now the right way round.

Indian Raj: The Ajagava heavy bombard has gained a special rule meaning it is not required to make a drift move. It is still required to use the turning template however (it is ponderous!) The Antaka remains the same as the majority of other large armoured models and does not have independent move.

Kingdom of Denmark: Small tweaks have been made to the Sigurd and the Skagerrak around movement speed and TV. I am not willing to make more significant changes at this time. The Skagerrak can thrown 27AD at PB with Massed Fire which is easily on of the biggest Salvos in the game. It is the nature of the Fleet Action Rules set that some of the AD values are more abstract than in DW as the relative DR and combining mechanics make a direct translation untenable. We did have one game where each Skagerrak had the same AD as a Konigsburg BC (that's 14 each and 42 AD total) which, while admittedly hilarious, would have led to inevitable Danish dominion over all the world.

Josh

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Thanks for the tweaks to the Sigurds. Uhlans still look better value, but wonder whether they're a bit underpriced (basically a gunship for cruiser cost) which made the Sigurd look worse. 

I see what you mean about the Skagaraks mk2. Any more AD would make for a scary Sqn with the DWFA approach to linking.

Still don't understand why the stats for Danish versions of Prussian ships are different to the standard Prussian ones in DWFA though - is there a reason why you made Konigsberg (for instance) different? Just seems odd.

.... and the broadsides and turrets on Asgard still look the wrong way around.

 

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The PLC WZ6 Szpada has a weapon listed as a broadside with P+S arc. The model clearly has a front facing turret.

should this be a turret weapon with F/P/S arc?

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- What is the air bombard name once for all ? :D

In the DW orbat it's Luxing. In the Suppression group product page you can find 'Liuxang' 'Liuxing' and 'Luixing' (as in the DWFA orbat)

 

- Fortification group : Zahmadao or Zahnmadao ?

- Fortification group : the Dun seem to be compulsory whereas they are optional in the Zhanmadao stats

- Alliance naval battle group : Guan Do or Guan Dao ?

- Alliance aerial BG : no name for the medium and small models ?

- Alliance armoured BG : the Large is a Jian...instead of the land carrier I suppose

- Alliance armoured BG : Chao Feng designation incomplete (Chao Feng Class Medium Bombards) ?

 

- Drgaon robot :D

 

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Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but Bombs are not standardized - the vast majority are "red" weapons, while a couple, like the Japanese Onryo and DFA-170, are noted as having "blue" bombs - is this intentional for some reason? 

  • Sea-version of French Magenta - any stats upcoming? 

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On 27/09/2016 at 7:05 AM, Spartan Josh said:

The Skagerrak can thrown 27AD at PB with Massed Fire which is easily on of the biggest Salvos in the game.

Hi Josh,

Sorry to repeat myself, The Danes used to be Glass Cannons, with the high AD weapon balancing the poor defences.  In the DWFA ORBAT they seem to have kept the glass (ActD and PasD 2 ish) but lost the cannon part. Please could you have another look at the balance of the fleet.  I also use Prussians and French fleets so will use those for comparison.  Take the Sigurd - for 5 points more the Uhlan gives you a better turret, a 4AD broadside, better special forces and better defences.  For the same 5 points more, the Dieppe gives you a better turret (except at LR), a torpedo turret that packs more AD overall than the Sigurds only weapon and has much better defences.    As for the Skagarak, an alternate way to reduce the sqn AD would have been to limit sqn size to 1 - 2 rather than set the turret AD low - as you did for the Uhlan (24AD volley from 2 ships) and the Toulon (20 AD and 16 AD volley from 2 ships), each of which have better PasD and ActD than Skagarak 2 as well as better firepower.  It just doesn't seem balanced so thought worth another look. I'll get back in my box now... and reserve my Danes for DW. Very happy with the RoF, PE, KOB and LOIS ORBATs (my other fleets) by the way - it's just this one that looks wrong. Keep up the good work.

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A couple of things:

  • CoA Armoured Walker Battle Group's bonus mentions that any Infantry deployed by them gains Fearless.....but they have no means of Combat Deploying any Infantry at all. :D

 

  • Is it intentional that the Blucher Dreadnought is just comparable with the Kaiser Karl in terms of broadside firepower? They even have the same MARs, at least the Blucher's Tesla Broadsides should have Disruption...

Blucher:

TURRETS: 24/16/10

BROADSIDES: 12/8/-

Kaiser Karl

TURRETS: 21/18/9

BROADSIDES: 12/9/-

 

Compared to say Majesty with Monarch

Majesty:

TURRETS: 24/20/12

BROADSIDES: 10/8/-

Monarch

TURRETS: 20/14/10 

BROADSIDES: 8/7/-

 

Or Hachiman vs Kaiju

Hachiman:

TURRETS: 24/16/14

BROADSIDES: 9/7/-

Kaiju

TURRETS: 20/14/10 

BROADSIDES: 8/7/-

 

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Couple of things with the PLC one - the battlegroups page refers to the Chinese Federation.

The Triglav's bombard says 360 arc - that as intended? The bombard on the model is very much pointing forwards.

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Hachiman's Incendiary Turrets have the Punishing MAR - shouldn't it be Disruption to be in line with the other EOTBS Incendiary Turrets? 

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A couple of observations from recent games - more balance than typos:

Arashi Class Support Cruisers have 11 dice apiece at LR and 9 at EF, which means a squadron of two fires off 22 dice at 32 inches.

Similarly, the Brit's Vengeance Sub spits out 20 dice at LR, and 24 at ER, which explode even when it's submerged thanks to its Hunter MAR.

These seem a bit much, especially given the relative cheapness of the units (both convincingly one-shot a Prussian crusier or gunship from afar).


Speaking of the Prussian gunships - they've got a squad limit of 1-2. Should that be 1-3?

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I think the FSA Recon Group should be 1-2 instead of 0-2 for number of medium & small squadrons.  It is 1-2 for all other factions and one medium squadron must be the lead squadron, indicating that you can’t have no medium squadrons.

 

I’m also not convinced that the FSA Aerial Robot Battlegroup is entirely accurate (there are no ‘Freedom Battle Robots’ in the list, only ‘Freedom Escort Robots’ which don’t come as anything other than escorts). 

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On 7/9/2016 at 9:16 AM, sleeping_squirrel said:

I jumped with joy when I saw Doncaster stats for the first time. But are its stats correct? DR, HP, VP?

This old typo sneaked in again in 2.0 :(

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Thanks for the spot, a few others have come out of the woodwork (as ever!) will update the ORBATs in a few days, to see if anything else emerges.

Josh 

 

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It's not in the lists, but in the store--the Covenant Core Battle Group lists the Alma Skimming Destroyer as one of the available smalls. 

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On 08/08/2017 at 9:03 AM, Spartan Josh said:

Thanks for the spot, a few others have come out of the woodwork (as ever!) will update the ORBATs in a few days, to see if anything else emerges.

Josh 

 

Any updates yet Josh?

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