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I Want A Lovely Commodore!

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I want a lovely free Russian Commodore but I can't swim the flippin' Atlantic to get one!

Any chance it will be available via the website?

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I want a lovely free Russian Commodore but I can't swim the flippin' Atlantic to get one!

There's always the Twitter competition!

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:angry: Yeah....I still think we as Brits get a raw deal this side of the Atlantic. Will we be able to get these when WE buy the new Russian box sets? We also seem to get stuff 'late' this side of the pond! :angry:

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There's always the Twitter competition!

I don't have nothing to do with that new fangled nonsense!

Can't I send you my name and address on the back of a postcard??;)

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I must admit to being more than a little disappointed that a British company is offering this deal only to Americans

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Same thing happened last year with the RoF Magenta which was initially only available as a special at the US event, but then Spartan relented and put some up for sale in their webshop.

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Cheers Spartan !!! once again you have completely ignored your UK fanbase !!!!

That said its not that well sculpted so no big thing to me not being able to get one... as for a twitter competition ? this means a UK player has to compete with players from around the world for something a US player can basicly pick up for free at a convention !!!!!!

I dont feel this is just or fair on any other nationality, be they english german or french...

One more reason why people feel spartan are pandering to the americans cough cough FSA ... so much so the game seems to have been dropped now in my local store :( wich is less than an hour from your head office !!! all you needed to do was come down and run a tourny or some games ... they have 3 floors of plush games tables and enthusiasm....

Spartan contact Cut and Thrust in bristol, and offer to run a tournament there... and give out these busts to all players who turn up for a game on the weekend... or something similier... you have an amazing opertunity on your doorstep to promote your product not just in your closest city but internationaly with coverage of the event...

but as said.. unfair yes... but that said its not that great a bust and lacks the detail i would expect.

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:angry: Yeah....I still think we as Brits get a raw deal this side of the Atlantic. Will we be able to get these when WE buy the new Russian box sets? We also seem to get stuff 'late' this side of the pond! :angry:

Cheers Spartan !!! once again you have completely ignored your UK fanbase !!!!

going to call horse hockey on those. We couldn't get a blackwolf without ordering the rules from Spartan directly instead of our local gaming store in the US. I'd rather have a blackwolf than a commodore...

In fact, I'll be at Gencon and will buy the Russian set for a commodore if you trade me a blackwolf :)

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couldn't say i cared any less than I do lol

but maybe should have made it a first how ever many people order the Russians from your site but alas its a worthless model anyway so not all bad ;) just want the ruskies don't need the trinket ;)

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@ Sebenko hate to be the one to break this to you, but Polar bears live in the arctic.. not the antarctic... so an antartican would be very very unlikely to have a polar bear cloak

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@ Sebenko hate to be the one to break this to you, but Polar bears live in the arctic.. not the antarctic... so an antartican would be very very unlikely to have a polar bear cloak

True! Now Penguin down underpants on the other hand - all the rage in Covenant stores this season...

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I wonder if ordering from an American distributor would net a British player the commodore....

Yeah...my point is......why should we have to.

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Don't get me wrong....I think Spartan Games are a great company, I've being buying,painting and playing with all their games since the early days of Uncharted Seas, in fact my 'painting room' looks like a Spartan Games 'stock room' :rolleyes: I do feel we get a raw deal sometimes over here......second in line with new releases as more often than not American player seem to be able to get their hands on stuff first.....and support at Game Cons in this country. I see the reasoning behind not being at every game show with a stand in the UK...as ultimately it would badly effect other traders on the day, but I don't think I've every seen a Spartan presents at the larger shows,(Salute for one)...which would be a great way to expand the fan base for the games.

Its a hard slog getting players regularly interested in investing in a game which in some ways has a fairly low 'profile' in this country. I know at the start the release dates were awful.......so many missed deadlines...but things have got really, really better....what puts many players off now is 'the atlantic divide'. Is it that hard to ensure a fair and even distribution across the globe? It just seems 'patchy' at the moment as regards who gets what and when.

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What I think it comes down to is that GW has more or less choked the market in the UK, and with all of their restrictive international trading rules on companies like Wayland Games, for example, outside the UK (and Europe) is probably the better place to try and get new players.

I mean i read all over the place that Americans have almost had enough of GW, not to mention the Australians. While the UK still has a very strong and loyal fanbase.

So why bother trying to compete in the UK, when the feeding ground elsewhere is better??

At least, this is my take on it. Doesnt make it right though.

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What I think it comes down to is that GW has more or less choked the market in the UK, and with all of their restrictive international trading rules on companies like Wayland Games, for example, outside the UK (and Europe) is probably the better place to try and get new players.

I mean i read all over the place that Americans have almost had enough of GW, not to mention the Australians. While the UK still has a very strong and loyal fanbase.

So why bother trying to compete in the UK, when the feeding ground elsewhere is better??

At least, this is my take on it. Doesnt make it right though.

I couldn't tell you for sure if the US as a whole is sick of GW, but I know most the people I know definitely are! So I'm glad to have Spartan doing so well here, but I do feel they should show some love to the home team...

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Seconded, Darthkema. My friends and I are pretty fed up with GW's shenanigans. And it makes sense that Spartan would focus on a market less saturated than the UK. Sucks for you guys, but the same is true in reverse where GW is concerned and, for purely selfish reasons, I totally dig it. Spartan's games are compelling, the models are superlative, and the prices are reasonable. It's pretty gratifying.

Given their ability to translocate, I think the Covenant could manage polar bear cloaks. Penguin down skivvies are just silliness. Psh. :P

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What I think it comes down to is that GW has more or less choked the market in the UK, and with all of their restrictive international trading rules on companies like Wayland Games, for example, outside the UK (and Europe) is probably the better place to try and get new players.

I mean i read all over the place that Americans have almost had enough of GW, not to mention the Australians. While the UK still has a very strong and loyal fanbase.

So why bother trying to compete in the UK, when the feeding ground elsewhere is better??

At least, this is my take on it. Doesnt make it right though.

Certainly doesn't make it right M8....and I hope it isn't true! If Spartan Games are favoring the 'Over seas market' because of GW's strangle hold(?) in the UK.....that, IMHO is a really bad attitude to take. Maybe having things released at the same time Worldwide is a logisitic nightmare...in which case. as it's a British based company, surely it would be fairly to issue release dates when models are avaliable for sale in this country and the rest of the World falls in logistically if you see what I mean.

I don't really need a model of the Russian Commodore,( to be honest, I've got far too much other Spartan goodness to paint!), but 'special offers' only avaliable at stateside shows,( or via a Twiitter entry.....no thanks you)!....is a bit of a slap in the face to folk in this country that have supported Spartan from the early days. Any special offers or promotional models should be avaliable to anyone Worldwide at the same time IMHO.

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Business is business. You go where the money is more likely to be.

If the film 'A Beauitful Mind' has taught me anything, if one company is pouring money into one area, why try to compete? They are wasting their money. why not try to make more for yourself elsewhere where that other company isint??

Makes more business sense.

If it means giving the UK customer base secondary treatment.....so be it.

Spartan isint a big company. They couldnt afford to keep up with GW if they tried (not many could)

If they think their business will do better with more focus being placed on them over there, who are we to stop them?? We all want Spartan to stay and make these awesome models for their awesome games. So I dont see the downside.

Again, none of this makes it right.

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They are not favoring the US market. If that was the case, we wouldn't have had to order direct from the UK to get a Blackwolf earlier this year. It should have been available to us from our local sources if we bought a DW 1.1 book as well. (Limited time offer of course).

And it's not like they are favoring the US market with this one. You have to go to Gencon to get it. That's 1500+ miles from my home and many, many others.

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I never said it was the case. I said its what i think might be happening.

Secondly, regarding the Black Wolf. I live in N. Ireland. I have not seen any shops that even have DW on sale, let alone the Black Wolf.

And as far as I remember, the Black Wolf was only sold from Spartan's online shop if you bought the rulebook. So I think everyone was in the same boat (pun intended) on that one.

Thirdly, Spartan has up on the website saying that they cant really do conventions (being a small company and whatever else is up there) Yet, they are wiling to spend the money to print, mould, and cast the Commodore, put it on a flight to America (with a Spartan Team going to promote the games? I dont know. But if there is, thats a fair bit of money for each member going across the atlantic and back) and then just give them away to any who want them???

Thats a fair bit of money they are wasting when they can do the same thing in the UK for a lot less cost (literally they could drive to the Conventions and waste only £100, for example, on petrol costs). But I havent seen them over here (I heard that they were invited to come to the closest convention to me last year, but they declined. And thats just a short 1 hour flight across the Irish Sea), and I dont know if they have been to any convention in England.

Smacks a bit of favouritism to the USA compared to the UK.

So you can understand why many in the thread are angry. (im not one of them as I dont care. The model is for a faction im not going to be playing with, and its ugly)

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I feel....and I know this would make all the Spartan Games players I know happier.....all promotional/special models should only be avaliable from the Spartan store..then, if you really want one, you pay for is as part of the promotion and get it shipped to where you are.....all fair across the board. The idea that the UK should be a secondary market 'because the states is bigger market' and not 'strangled by GW' is just insane to me. Follow that argument to it logical end and within ten years we would all be pushing Space Marines and Orks around a 'gothic', 'ruined' battlefield as a hobby. I realise that Spartan Games IS a business but I hope that they don't 'just chase the dollar' as it were.

On the convention front I agree with you DKoW....I have never seen Spartan at a show in the UK. Fair enough, I can see a reason, that they think a Spartan Stand at a show will take business from other traders selling Spartan Games at the same show.....but in my experience...it's a bit of a 'chicken and the egg' situation. I would have thought no independant trader any any of the larger shows here in the UK relies totally on Spartan Games as a line.....one of the reasons for this I believe, is that Spartan Games don't promote themselves as they could at these shows...so few people know the excellent games they do. If they attended more shows here.....I truely believe they would sell more in this country. Take Salute run in London by the South London Warlords for example. I know for a fact that the shows tries to encourage smaller company so the traders on the day cover a very wide range of interests. The show is not wall to wall GW...in fact..funnily enough..GW don't attend as most traders on the day can under cut GW shop prices....how weird is that?......but as a show case for your company and games systems, its second to none in this country. A stand at Salute would rise Spartans profile in the UK and Europe,( as the show get a increasing amount of European and International visitors now), and help makes us UK players not feel 'left out'. A well presented stand, a demo game and some beautifully painted miniatures can do wonders for the profile of a company.

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If the reason for not going to a convention is that they fear about taking business away from the traders is a real concern to them, then they shouldnt bring enough stuff with them to sell.

I mean at Q-Con (thats the closest convention to me) a whole floor is dedicated to demo games. Its not a large space, but its more than enough to accommodate several game companies.

Why do they think they have to sell the stuff there?? All they need are 3 tables, and 6 factions (2 from every game) and show people how they are played. If the people want to buy the models, they can go to the traders and buy a boxset after playing a demo.

I dont see where the problem is.

Its a very poor excuse for not going to them.

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